the fact that paul ryan and mitt romney are going to go and try to change the law. bypass the supreme court, and say no no no we're going to outlaw the right to choose. and that's an outrage. and i thought vice president biden really explained that no catholic hospitals and institutions do not have to give out birth control. >> bill: paul ryan said that no abortion except for the three exceptions, right? and yet as a member of congress he has been no way no how, no exceptions. >> right. >> bill: and he like todd akin think there is such a thing as legitimate rape. so how can you trust paul ryan now on these -- on these issues. >> right you can't trust paul ryan because he has spent the last couple of years fighting against aborg in all cases. and even mitt romney -- he is all of the above. he will say whatever it takes to get elected. and if he gets in don't believe him. i don't trust him that he would even have these exceptions. >> bill: did the debate change anything? >> i think it did. look this is an election about turnout. and after last night, i think democrat